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Magnus Chase ([personal profile] summerdude) wrote2023-11-02 09:33 pm

You Say Overkill, I Say Due Diligence [open post]

Magnus copies the sign onto seven different pieces of paper. It reads:
WANT TO LEARN NEW SKILLS? ME FREAKING TOO. I (Magnus Chase) Will Trade Lessons In Any Of The Following For Something You Know:
  • ASL (Alf/American Sign Language)

  • Camping (pitching tents, campfire safety, celestial navigation)

  • What To Do If You Find Yourself Lost In The World Tree Yggdrasil

  • Pickpocketing (But only if you promise to use it for good (stealing ONLY from dickhead rich people) and ONLY if you have to!)

  • Swordfighting for Beginners (I am intermediate but Jack is advanced and he can help!)

  • What It REALLY Feels Like To Die (NOT ADVICE!!!)

  • (Trans)Gender Identity and Fluidity (from the perspective of a cis guy) (Alex-approved content only)

  • What To Do If The God You're Talking To Is Super Obnoxious Particular

  • Why Falafel is the Best Food in the World

All skills welcome! But if you know any of the following I am especially interested: Cooking, Geometry, How To Declare Your Love To Your Partner, Hand-to-Hand Combat, Balancing a Budget, Writing Poetry, Social Studies, Codebreaking.

(Sorry but I will not learn pottery from anyone but ♥Alex Fierro♥. I hope you understand.)

PS if there's enough interest we can maybe do full classes where everybody gets to take turns teaching and learning?

He adds a note about the areas where he can most frequently be found and then posts one sign in each of the two kitchens he's encountered, one by the welcome table, one on the door to the greenhouses, one in the library, one on his bedroom door, and one by what he believes to be the most-populated lounge. Then, with a great deal of eager anticipation, he goes about his day.


[A note from Magnus's typist: Open indefinitely!]
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-03 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan sees the pamphlet in the library. Despite her despondent mood, the enthusiasm shining through it makes her smile. She liked Magnus when she met him; he had a directness and charm not unlike Nangong Jingnu when she was around Magnus' age. It saddens her to think of how circumspect and careful Nangong Jingnu has become, now that her life depends on Wei kingdom politics. She would like to see Magnus' youthful simplicity preserved.

She finds him near the greenhouse, and gives him a bow that speaks more to her respect for him than any actual need for etiquette. "Young master Magnus. What is falafel?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-04 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
His delight at seeing her genuinely makes her smile. She's never thought of herself as someone who enjoys spending time with younger people, but perhaps it's because nearly all the young people she meets in the Wei palace are uncomfortably complicit in the crimes of the empire. She has a great deal of fondness for Yuxiao and Jinwushu, as she does for Xiao-Die—who is now well past twenty, but still a child in need of protection in Qi Yan's heart. She feels her guard somewhat soften around Magnus.

"I don't think so. I don't have any skill with cooking at all. I am also curious to know—what is 'gender identity'?" Qi Yan has a gender, and an identity, and both are private. She can't imagine what Magnus could have to teach her about either of them. "Allow me to give you an accounting of my skills, as you did so comprehensively. I can teach poetry. I also have some meager¹ skill in calligraphy, weiqi, tactical planning, and the xiao."

¹Exceptional.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-05 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"Of course. A shrewd negotiator," she says with a little smile.

Something about this speech unsettles Qi Yan. After a moment, she places the feeling. It's like sitting with Nangong Jingnu and her sisters while they discussed the fate of the land north of the Luo; involved deeply and personally, but needing to stay outwardly implacable. She was told to conceal her gender from the time she was old enough to speak. It would take a lot more than half a month in a strange place to be able to speak of it aloud.

"The Art of War counsels that the best way to conduct siege warfare is not to engage in siege warfare. It is a 'method of no alternative.' So if you find it difficult, take heart in knowing that Sun Tzu does as well." She cannot assume any shared frames of reference. "He is a great general and military tactician from my lands. Weiqi is a game of strategy, played with black and white stones on a board. Some believe it also trains the mind for warfare, if that's to your interest. And the xiao is an instrument." She briefly mimes playing it.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-05 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then I'm sure we can arrange an exchange, or several. Why don't we start with what a chickpea is, and I can describe to you how the Emperor of the Wei kingdom dealt with the occupied castle cities of Huainan?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-05 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
She gestures to him to lead the way. Qi Yan still doesn't know where all the kitchens are, nor their various purposes.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-05 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
She sniffs the bag of dried chickpeas first; nearly odorless, but slightly musty. The chickpeas sitting in liquid are nearly twice their size, and the odor is much more pronounced. "Like soybeans," she guesses.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
"I am ignorant when it comes to cooking." Qi Yan can cook noodles, and put meat on the fire until it is roasted, but that is about the extent of her abilities. "My skills are entirely impractical. If you fry it, does it not become harder and less palatable?" She eyes the dried chickpeas doubtfully.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-06 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The most intriguing part of this is the demonstration of the fridge, which Qi Yan has not used yet. But she puts that aside for now and bites into one of the falafels. It's delicious; spiced with flavors Qi Yan has never experienced, and satisfyingly crisp. She takes her time eating it, devoting all her attention to the experience out of respect for Magnus.

"It's very good." It seems important to Magnus for her to think so, so she wants him to know. "I am honored to be introduced to it. I can think of something that may go well with it, if you'll allow me the liberty." She gestures to the fridge. "How does it produce what you request?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-06 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan focuses on what she wants, and indeed, when she opens the fridge it reveals a small bowl of dark green paste. "Chive flower paste," she says, taking it out. "Where I come from, we do not grow crops, so our diet is mainly meat. But we have this seasonally, when the wild chives blossom in the spring. It is a very good accompaniment to food that is fried or fatty." She is speaking of where she actually comes from, despite having told many people that she's from the Jin province; if it doesn't mean anything here, then she doesn't have to worry about anyone noticing discrepancies in her background.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-06 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan spoons a small dab of the paste onto one of the falafel balls and takes a bite. It adds a satisfying sharpness, and masks the slight dryness that Magnus lamented. She offers him the bowl, raising her eyebrows as a question.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-06 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Luckily, Qi Yan finds young people with poor manners very likable. "This humble scholar is pleased to have been of service."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-07 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
"Of course. I must complete my education, right?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Since this is Magnus' end of their skill exchange, Qi Yan takes it as seriously as she hopes Magnus will take her upcoming instruction on warfare. She tries each of the sauces both alone and with the falafel, and tries to give each of them her full consideration.

The food in the imperial court is very good, but these flavors are new to her. She enjoys the sharpness of the garlic in many of the sauces, and it's well-balanced by bright hits of acid, grassy herbs and creamy yogurt. Eggplant she knows, but never prepared this way, and between the falafel and the hummus, the chickpeas prove impressively versatile. The spice, though, makes her eyes water—the grass plains don't use many spices, and while they eat spicy food in some parts of the Wei kingdom, Nangong Jingnu doesn't favor it. She wipes them with her sleeve with a self-deprecating smile. "This is a cultural education well worth the trade."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-08 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan's heart goes out to him; she knows how it is not to have a home. "I am glad to hear that times are better for you now." The fact that Magnus now patronizes the business who helped him through times of struggle also gives her a very favorable impression of him. She dips a piece of falafel in the toum and pops it in her mouth. "Have you found some profession, then?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-08 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan doesn't know what to make of this. She often considers herself someone who has died, symbolically, but that doesn't seem to be what Magnus means. She decides not to question it for now. "Then I'm glad that fortune has been kinder to you. She has another taste of the baba ghanoush—it is delicious. "It is in Valhalla that you must study warfare, then? Would you like to discuss it now, while we eat?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-08 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"It sounds a weighty charge," she says sincerely. "I don't know how much I can help—I'm good with ideas, but I have never commanded an army, much less fought a battle. But here is what I know. Besieging a city, particularly a walled city, is very difficult, and very expensive. If the army can keep supplies from entering the city, it's possible to starve them out, but what will the army eat? Thousands of men require food and drink, not to mention weapons and armor, and their horses must also be provided for. The cost of dispatching a single soldier may be up to half a liang of silver per day, so unless the dispatching kingdom has very deep pockets, it is difficult to outlast the store of provisions kept in a city. That is why Sun Tzu advises never to besiege a walled city if it can be avoided."

She pauses to eat more falafel. "And now let me tell you of the situation in Huainan, and you may tell me your thoughts. First of all, you must know that the Emperor of the Wei kingdom is unique." She remembers telling Magnus that she was married to a princess. She hopes he won't make the connection here, only because Qi Yan has no desire to discuss her personal matters. "The previous Emperor had nine sons, yet even among so many, there was no suitable heir to inherit the kingdom. He refused to name an heir while alive, but left an edict to be read upon his death stating his intention to leave the kingdom to his youngest daughter. She was prepared for this, and had already secured military and political support, but it was nevertheless a bloody and controversial succession. Many in the court and the kingdom still find it difficult to accept a female Emperor. Beyond that, the kingdom has suffered a series of natural disasters, especially torrential rain and flooding, that destroyed much of the grain harvest in farming provinces such as Huainan. Many farmers were forced to leave their lands and become refugees. Because of their dire straits, and out of anger towards the idea of a female Emperor, a rebel army formed. They were even able to secure a walled city as their base of operations.

"The Emperor gathered her closest ministers for guidance, and they determined that it was not feasible to settle this matter militarily—for several reasons, but primarily the expense. Their suggestion was for the Emperor to issue an 'edict of self-blame,' essentially an imperial decree acknowledging the hardships that had befallen the rebels, and taking responsibility. This edict would state that the rebellion was the fault of the Emperor, for mishandling matters, and not the fault of the people. It would also offer the rebels amnesty, promising that if they gave up the rebellion and returned to their homes, their crimes would be pardoned, and the matter not investigated further. This would keep them from continuing to rebel solely out of fear of being prosecuted for treason. What do you think of this plan? Can you see any flaws?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-09 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan is utterly delighted. To think about this issue, not only strategically, but from the perspective of a woman, is something not many men would do. "That is exactly why I advised the Emperor against this plan. Male Emperors have issued edicts of self-blame in the past, but for a man, this conveys an admirable sense of humility. The people's hearts would soften towards him. But for the first ever female Emperor, it would be accepting that having a woman as an emperor is a shameful, humiliating thing, and that she is not competent to rule the kingdom. This edict of self-blame would likely embolden the rebels. So a different plan was arranged." It was Qi Yan's plan, but she's aware that some might find it dishonorable and underhanded, and she doesn't want Magnus to think poorly of her.

"We had three aims. First, to destroy the rebel army, using as few soldiers as possible. Second, to help the rebels return to society. And third, to re-assert the power of the Wei kingdom, and deter them from rebelling again.

"To address the first aim, men were sent to the mountains of Huainan on a dry night with good wind. At a time previously agreed on, they set several simultaneous fires, which spread quickly. At the same time, a small group of soldiers infiltrated the city and carried out an operation to behead the leaders of the army. And a third group of soldiers disguised themselves as members of the rebel army, seeking help after being burned by the fire. This group was tasked with spreading rumors that the fires sprung from nowhere as divine punishment—a sign of Heaven's wrath. What do you think was the result of all this?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-09 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
She nods. "It worked. The rebel soldiers—really just farmers—were spooked by the 'evidence' that the heavens supported the female Emperor, and at the same time, they lost their leadership." A large part of this success was that no one would suspect someone of falsifying a sign from the heavens, because doing so would be inviting divine wrath onto oneself. That is why only Qi Yan, who has no attachment to the religion of the Wei people, could think of it. "They were adrift and uneasy, and looking for a way to back out without punishment. That is when we offered amnesty. Her Majesty wrote a letter granting a full pardon to the bearer, with her seal, and we distributed hundreds of copies throughout the city. That takes care of the second aim, to return the rebels smoothly to society. And as for the third aim—to reassert authority—the amnesty had a time limit. If the rebels took the letter and returned home, their crimes were pardoned, but if any still remained after one month, the Emperor would send a huge army to crush them and punish their families. Of course, we never had the resources to send the army." She smiles, and goes in for another bite of falafel with tahini.

"There was just one other part to this plan, which I implemented without consulting with the Emperor. I gave orders that anyone carrying the amnesty letter was entitled to a nourishing meal of pork, mantous and vegetable soup. Over the meal, I spoke with them to determine the true cause of the rebellion. The flooding was bad, but the kingdom went to great lengths to send money for disaster relief—that is exactly why we couldn't finance a war. It turned out that the officials distributing the disaster relief were corrupt. They made the rationed porridge too thin, more water than grain, and the rice that was distributed directly to the families was mixed thoroughly with sand. We punished these officials harshly, distributed more relief funds, and hired the reformed rebels to rebuild the homes lost in the floods.

"So, that is how we took back a walled city, without throwing away resources on a prolonged siege." She pauses, suddenly aware that she has been lecturing excessively. This is something Nangong Jingnu would make fun of, if she were here; Qi Yan's heart aches fiercely. "Does that help?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-09 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan can appreciate the significance of food from one's home. "I'd love to try it." She reaches for one of the bottles.

"These lessons can be applied outside of warfare. Most importantly, if you wish to change someone's behavior, it helps to find out what they want and give it to them, while at the same time making the path you don't want them to follow as undesirable as possible." She is self-conscious, again, about being too didactic. "It's good that you like learning. I enjoyed hearing your thoughts. You have very good insight." She wishes he didn't have to think about combat at all; she thinks of Jinwushu, raised to fight a war Qi Yan would like to end.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-09 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan contemplates this. "Have you considered writing a pamphlet on your situation for the welcome table? It seems complex." She learned a lot from the literature on cultivation and spores.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-09 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"You say that you died, and that you train for a climactic battle thousands of years in the future. I must seek your forgiveness—I am not quick-witted enough to follow your meaning."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds like mythology, although not that of Wei or Jing. Heroes who die in battle attaining rewards in the afterlife must be the most common myth for any kingdom to tell, for obvious reasons. But what kind of reward is this?

Talking so much has tired Qi Yan a little, and put some strain on her fragile lungs. She starts to speak, and then stops to cough discreetly into her sleeve before continuing. "If you die heroically in battle, shouldn't you be allowed to rest? Not told to fight and die again?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan sighs; she doesn't like the thought of children drafted into someone else's war. She knows what her father would have wanted from her, and she's tried her best with it, but it has to end with her. Her father wouldn't have wanted the next generation of the Chengli tribe to live like Qi Yan. She tried to explain as much to Jinwushu, but he's very young, and she had to leave him under the care of Bayin, who feels differently.

"I'm fine. It's an old illness that recurs occasionally. It's not serious."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
She nods, touched at his concern. "There are herbs that help, but I don't know which—I'm not the most diligent patient. I simply take what is prescribed. But Lan Wangji gave me some medicine from his lands to help. Otherwise, cold and damp aggravate it, and dry heat is beneficial." She refrains from mentioning that she's already running low on Lan Wangji's herbs, and the fact that autumn is in the air bodes poorly. If she's meant to die here, there's no point in causing Magnus distress over it. She's already snatched her life from the king of hell a number of times; it's only right he should claim it eventually. She would just rather give it to Nangong Jingnu.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan is stunned, and then she is thrilled. The idea of supernatural powers still rests uneasily in her thoughts, but this display is so gentle and pleasant. It seems no more than an extension of Magnus' natural atmosphere. But the rise of temperature eases her breathing, and some tightness in her chest relaxes. She hadn't even noticed those symptoms.

"It does help." She gives him a genuine smile. Nangong Jingnu worries ceaselessly about Qi Yan's health, she would be happy to see—no. Qi Yan reminds herself forcefully that Nangong Jingnu asked not to see her again.
Edited 2023-11-10 04:40 (UTC)
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
"You can heal any injury?" It's almost impossible to imagine the value of such a skill on the battlefield. It's hard for Qi Yan not to think of everyone she's loved who has died through violence. If worlds exist where fatal injuries can be swiftly healed, it seems a bitter fate that hers is not one.

"It is an injury, in a way, although likely beyond your reach by now. I nearly died as a child, and the imperial doctors tell me my body has never fully recovered." She is thinking of Xiao-Die when she says, "What about injuries of the mind?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-10 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Magnus' world is so alien to her that she can hardly picture anything he's saying, even the parts she can understand. But in other ways, it's all too familiar. Women forced into marriages, children forced into combat... And there are many things in the mundane, mortal world that can break someone's mind just to see. Although what happened to Xiao-Die was years ago, there are still times when she is actively struggling. If Qi Yan could have one companion here from her home, it would be Nangong Jingnu, but if there was a chance Magnus could actually help, she would easily trade Jingnu for Xiao-Die.

But there's no point in saying any of this. Xiao-Die isn't here, and if she were, there's no guarantee Magnus could soothe her, so what would be gained by mentioning that Qi Yan knows someone far away who could use care? She puts aside her dark thoughts and smiles mildly at Magnus. "It is an incredible skill. I cannot imagine how much your friends and military brethren must value it, although your kind nature alone is already value enough."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-11 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan nods. "It was like that for my mother. She was not a warrior, and everyone would have preferred my father take a fiercer wife, but she was much beloved by those her knew her." It is a rare opportunity, to be able to talk about her parents without fear. She thought, when she first spoke of these things with Nangong Jingnu, that it would be unbearably difficult to drag out memories from her childhood that have been buried for decades. But it's strangely easy, as if these matters were closer to the surface than she thought. "How do you find it here?"
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-11 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It startles her that he addresses her by name, rather than title—or a polite indirect address, since she didn't give her title. But she finds it endearing. "How could this humble scholar, whose needs are so few, find anything to complain about here? Do you want to know something I haven't told anyone?" She gives him a mischievous little smile. She can share this lightly, as long as she doesn't go into the details, and she likes the idea of him knowing there is more to her than her outward demeanor. "I was on the point of being executed, when I came. I'm a criminal outlaw. Since this mansion is a great deal more comfortable than imperial prison, it's hard to find any faults."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-11 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
She laughs a little. It is better, surely. Surely Qi Yan is the only person who would rather be awaiting execution. She remembers the first time she was thrown in imperial prison, when Nangong Jingnu sent her blankets and food and visited her every day. It would not have been like that, this time. "So you see, things could be worse. I hope it starts to feel more comfortable to you."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-12 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's interesting to hear this perspective. Qi Yan is not used to being around people like her. Just the opposite. But she is at least used to being around people comprehensible to her. The vast range of differences in this place is beyond disorienting. "I'm glad. Almost everyone here seems to have come alone. An attitude that helps you make new friends is of great value."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-13 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan cannot think of an honest response to this. She is not happy here, but she cannot think of anywhere else that would make her happier. "As well as I can. It's very different."
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-14 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
"You don't need to." But she considers the request, out of respect for Magnus. "I enjoyed exchanging lessons. I would like to do so again, if you still want to learn about poetry sometime. Although it would be another dry lecture. If you need to learn combat, I'm decent at archery." This is another small fact about herself that she would not have considered saying to anyone a half-month ago.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-14 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Let me take some time to consider it." The list was varied.
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[personal profile] agula 2023-11-14 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Qi Yan has been so engaged in the conversation, and thinking so deeply, that she never tried the beverage Magnus offered her. She opens the bottle of root beer and takes a sip. It fizzes on her tongue like something fermented, but the flavor is overwhelmingly sweet, with none of the complexity or acidity that would balance wine or kumis. It's not to Qi Yan's taste, but she's not picky either, and she can appreciate the significance of something from one's home.

"I'll think about our next exchange, then. Many thanks for sharing your food with me, young master Magnus." She stands to take her leave, taking the root beer with her, and gives him another small bow.
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Grantaire happens to catch the sign by the lounge and is terribly amused upon reading it. However, it does spur an idle thought. He then happens to catch Magnus later, near one of the kitchens.

"So, what to do if the god you're talking to is super particular?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Grantaire chuckles. "Well, good advice to have anyway, yes? Wouldn't want to be left wishing I had gotten the lesson if it turns out I need it." He takes a seat. "I've been settling in well enough, I think."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"My... oh, Enjolras?" He hesitates. "We've spoken."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If Grantaire knew what hidden camera shows were, you could say he's looking like he thinks he might be on one at this moment. "I was at... what?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
He's quiet for a moment. "This would have been right after we died, then?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-04 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Grantaire nods. "All right. That makes sense, then." He would have been one of the last things Enjolras saw, after all, of course it still would have been in his head. He heads to the fridge and pulls a bottle of beer out.

"So. Particular gods?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
He sits down himself with his bottle and leans back. "Well, I guess I'll start with what you started with. What sort of things would stroke a god's ego?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
He takes a drink. "Well. I'm not sure I quite understood about half of that, but I think I get the general idea. So... find out the god's interests and let them talk about that?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
"That's impressive," Grantaire says with a highly amused grin. "So does this work for all gods?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
"So not all gods, but most." He nods. "What do you do with the ones who'd see through it?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
"So basically, hope you get a self-important god, find out what they like, and flatter them like your life depends on it?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
He nods slowly. "Yes, that makes sense." He takes a long, thoughtful drink from his bottle. "So what if you're not sure what it is you want out of the situation? Just try to avoid the god and situation in question at all costs?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
"You know, I think I'm glad I have not had the acquaintance of nearly as many gods as you have."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"I... well, no, not really. It's mostly curiosity, I guess. In case I ever do get introduced to one, it could come in handy. And who knows, it's also possible that knowing how to deal with gods could apply in... non-god situations, too."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Gods. Like people, but worse. That makes entirely too much sense."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-05 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"Because a true god wouldn't be as petty?" Grantaire guesses.
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
"Well, if she gets here, then, I'll ask her. Might be interesting."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Well, you're clearly pretty smart yourself if you have such a long list of things to teach people."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"You're more diligent than I am. I avoided school as much as possible in favor of experiences. Games, frivolities, where to find the best of anything in Paris. I'm very well-schooled in what I sought out, but I'll cheerfully admit that for an art student, my paintings are positively miserable."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"Well, that's a range. And at least you're making your choices now."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Let the time blur all it wants. I wasn't really expecting anything on the other side."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm mostly enjoying it so far, so I'll defer to your expertise." He frowns thoughtfully. "Oh, but you wanted to trade knowledge, right?"
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-06 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm just not sure what I could teach you back. I can box, but I'm not sure it's quite enough to be considered 'hand-to-hand combat', and the rest of your list doesn't exactly cover my areas of expertise."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
"The best spots to go in Paris, although that's not useful here. Billiards, dominoes... I'm all right at tennis, dancing... Oh! And being an annoyance but not so much of an annoyance that your friends won't let you be near them ever again."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
"Well, I haven't found a tennis court yet, but if I do, I'll let you know. There's definitely a billiards table, and I've already taught some people the basics there. I wouldn't be shocked if I could turn up some dominoes, too."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Grantaire grins back and nods. "Magnificent! I won't drag you off to teach you anything right this instant, but come find me when you're ready for either and I'll look for dominoes in the meantime."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's up to you. I really don't have any demands on them whatsoever. Although if you want dominoes first before billiards, you'll have to give me time to find some."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"I do appreciate that you're casting a wide net as far as what to learn. I think dominoes first, though. Only because I've been playing a truly spectacular amount of billiards lately, so I'd like to enjoy another bit of entertainment for a change."
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[personal profile] futaille 2023-11-07 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'll keep my eye out too. And don't worry, I'm sure I'll annoy him quite well regardless."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-05 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius recognizes the name on the sign, Magnus, as the name of a man he'd like to meet -- a man who helped Galahad at his lowest, which makes him a more precious ally than any Claudius would cultivate for his own ends1. And though he's no longer seeking distractions from a broken heart, Claudius enjoys learning skills for learning's sake. He dwells on the first skill, which has little enough explanation. But Claudius recalls the single handsign he agreed on with Galahad. Galahad has other wants, Claudius knows, that he struggles to voice. Even if he learns to voice them with time, Claudius has seen how distress steals Galahad's ability to speak clearly or at all. A language of signs, even a rudimentary grasp for it, would be most useful.

The trouble is, though he'd like to meet the man, Claudius hasn't the first notion of what Magnus looks like. So he memorizes the areas on the sign, and adds them to his daily circuit of the mansion, keeping an eye out for anyone he doesn't recognize.

1 Yes, that means Shen Qingqiu is also a precious ally. Claudius isn't going to stop gossiping about him or making fun of him or looking appreciative when Lan Wangji coldly disdains him, but their alliance isn't contingent on such things, surely.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-05 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm Claudius," he answers with a quick and ready smile, "I've been here the longest, whatever that dubious distinction is worth, and I believe you're just the man I wanted to find. Magnus Chase? Do you need a hand?" Claudius gestures up and down the tower of books.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-05 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"For two reasons. One, I saw your notice outside the greenhouse, and I've an interest in exchanging skills for skills." Claudius appreciated that, the way it was posed as a trade. He has an exhausting ledger of favors in his head, and an awareness it will likely never be balanced. "The other is that I wished to thank you. I know you don't know me, but I heard you aided someone ... much beloved to me. His name is Galahad."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-05 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius laughs with genuine delight, and puts a hand to his heart. “As do I. And, with your permission, I’ll tell him you said so the next time he speaks of his difficulties making friends. It seems he’s found quite a steadfast one.”
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-06 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
"The hand you healed. I'd been taking care of it, before his memories returned to him." Which, Claudius realizes, invites the question of why Galahad had been left uncared for. He could leave the question for Magnus to ask himself, or not, or smooth past it to the next subject. But something about Magnus's easy warmth and regard for Galahad makes Claudius want to be honest. "With his memories back I'd convinced myself, rather foolishly, that Galahad didn't wish to see me. And though I tried to send him help, that help was ... sent back. We've since reunited, but you can imagine how grateful I am that his injuries were seen to." And from Galahad's own report of self-neglect, Claudius can imagine how bad those injuries become. Magnus is younger than Claudius expected, perhaps too young to have to handle a crisis older men failed to, but he seems to have done it gladly. Perhaps because Galahad wasn't a crisis to him, but a friend in need.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-06 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius is quite adept at subtle shifts in tone, and he raises his eyebrows with some respect. "Well-put. I've every hope and intention of keeping him happy." Which is strange enough to imagine -- Galahad happy, but he's seen it, and never wants to lose sight of it again.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-07 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad deserves, as far as Claudius is concerned, all things. He says so. "Galahad deserves the world." He smiles, not quite sure what Magnus's game is, but he enjoys playing it. Claudius does know how it looks, as an older man enamored with someone half his age, and he couldn't blame young Magnus in the least for being wary for his friend. "I admit, that's the other reason I hoped to find you. The exchange of skills for skills -- I wanted something to give Galahad. Another language we could speak in."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-07 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius clasps Magnus's hand with warm gratitude. "I've nothing but time," he says. "One of the benefits of living here, and not back in my own world with a full social calendar. I understand you had some interest in social studies? My own knowledge is, I admit, rather limited to my own narrow world ... but I served as a royal delegate and diplomat to many of the courts of Europe. I always tried to learn as much as I could about any given place and its practices."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-08 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh? You've the makings of a diplomat, if that's a path you'd like to follow -- I've observed one or two things already, if you'd care to hear them." To the last, he nods and gestures for Magnus to lead ahead. "I'll follow you to the lounge."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-09 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius laughs and holds up a hand. "Forgive me -- if you've just used a fanciful turn of phrase for a woman who's your battle companion, this question will seem rather naive. But I'm from a Christian kingdom obsessed with its pagan Viking past, and I've already met one angel and one demon here, so I'm rather curious. Is Samirah really a valkyrie?"
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-09 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"Laertes and I are both of Denmark, yes. You'll test my history sorely, before we've even begun our other lessons," Claudius says wryly. "It's connected to valkyries, yes? Valkyries are supposed deliver the noble dead to Valhalla -- those who died in battle. No matter how Christian the Danes become, I think they still believe it's the noblest thing to die on a battlefield, and pity anyone who dies in their sheets in a time of peace ..." Oh. Wait. He looks Magnus over again. "My apologies. That was a misstep, diplomatically." Did you die in a war? is not a question it's easy to ask delicately.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-09 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
This is, to be fair, a lot for Claudius to take in. Words like car bomb and fire extinguisher he more or less takes in context, but the context itself is the trouble. None of Claudus's brushes with other cosmologies have outright contradicted his own -- and to be fair, this one doesn't, either. But it feels as though it ought. The tense contradiction between a pagan past and a Catholic present is why, he thinks, the pulpits bristle with so much brimstone fire: the priests believe they're fighting a war for Danish souls, and have come armed. (And that's not to mention the Lutherans.) And then here's Magnus, with his litany of heroic souls -- truly heroic, not simply celebrated war heroes -- who have somehow slipped between the battle of Heaven and Hell to go somewhere else entirely. Settling back in an armchair, Claudius twists the signet ring around his finger in thought. "I'm beginning to think I should have asked you for lessons on what it's like to truly die," he says after a moment. "You died rather young, didn't you?" It's probably not rude to ask when someone else has broached the subject. "I thought you looked young when I saw you."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-11 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's a long time to be sixteen," Claudius notes. He remembers himself at sixteen, a lanky, half-formed thing of nerves and desire. "But I suppose it's time you wouldn't have otherwise. Are the years difficult to count, in the afterlife you come from, or have you simply ceased to count them?"
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-11 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"You've many friends." Claudius shakes his head, trying to shake off gloomy thoughts of time and eternity. "It speaks well of you ... and of your skills as a future diplomat. You also did an excellent job sounding out my intentions with Galahad. I was impressed."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-12 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
"I suppose so," Claudius says, with a small, wavy hand gesture. "I suppose a great deal of diplomacy depends on what you want to use it for. For me, it's always involved sorting allies from enemies. Learning how to say the right words to the right people, who can fall into either category. Finding common ground and compromise, when possible, and making sure a disagreement doesn't erupt into further violence, when necessary. But in political affairs, friendships are hard to find. I rather respect someone like you who identifies and defends their friends easily. It's an asset." It's a very roundabout way of saying he's glad Galahad has a friend like Magnus.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-12 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
As a choice of first sign, it shows such a perfect understanding of Claudius's angle and intentions that Claudius can't help but smile at it. He feels a kindling hope for this project -- he knows how to wield spoken words too well and to one purpose, like an archer who has to forget all his old distancing habits in order to fight with a broadsword. If he can put down words as weapons altogether, and learn another way of speaking, he may be able to say something new. He and Galahad might find new ways to speak to and understand each other. "We'll have to go through them one at a time, I think," he says. He has, at least, precise control over his fingers, stretching them out before attempting to recreate the first sign Magnus showed him.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-12 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Predictably, Claudius quite likes the coy version. He likes the way it feels in his fingers, a small, deliberate hint before it unfolds into the full gesture. He copies it both ways, keeping an eye on Magnus as he does so -- both to judge whether he's copying it correctly, and because it feels like part of the communication.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-13 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The gesture feels intimate, like clutching something precious and private to one's chest -- enough like love that Claudius thinks he'll remember it. After copying it, he goes through the other signs again, to fix them in his mind and his hands. It feels good to make them. Claudius so often needs something to do with hands, so often twiddles his fingers pointlessly, hiding them behind his back so no one will guess at his agitation. When Galahad was Damien, and they held hands in the garden, it was perhaps the first time he'd willingly shared that side of himself. He thinks of sharing these signs of love with Galahad, and it shows, in how his eyes and smile soften. "You're an excellent teacher," he says, after a moment's practice. "I'd like to learn the signs for other emotions. And how to inquire how someone might be feeling."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-14 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius accepts most of the titles people give him for the sake of politeness, but he thinks there's a comfortable and familiar register to the way Magnus says 'dude.' He decides not to return it until he’s quite convinced of its meaning, but the possibility makes him fond.

“See?” he says, in regards to Magnus’s teaching style. “Thou art patient and adaptive.” And Claudius does take the opportunity of Magnus’s patience to work through those signs, one by one, until he can do them quickly and see how they flow and feel together.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-14 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius laughs at the question, appreciating it. “Most of diplomacy is flattery. But I do try to be specific and sincere in what I flatter — insincere flattery is easily caught, and if you go too far with it, you may cause more offense.” For example, you might offend an emperor, and the emperor might then activate the blood parasites he fed to you. It happens from time to time. “Even sincere flattery can be difficult to accept for certain people. That’s why it helps to be specific. Someone might, for example, reject being called good if they have prior associations with the word, but if I say thou hast been patient in allowing me to practice signs, and adapted thy lessons to what I wish to learn, and who I wish to learn them for, with admirable grace … thou couldst demur, but thou couldst not deny thou hast done those two things.” He smirks. “So yes, I’m a constant flatterer, but thou art special. I remain grateful Galahad has a friend in thee.”
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-15 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"That makes you one of two people I know who've refused to bring about the end of the world," Claudius says, with a laugh of surprise and gratitude. It remains one of the most remarkable things Crowley ever told him. Perhaps it's only fitting -- here's two people able to confirm the existence of the afterlife and an overarching eschatolology, and Claudius is still grasping how they both can be true. But at least the end of all things is something malleable. "From the stories alone, Laertes would be quite amused if I were compared to Loki ... but I am sorry for your own experience with the god of lies. I admit I haven't always been the most honest of men. Laertes is one of the friends who keeps me honest -- I find my friendships here have made me more inclined to it than I ever was in Denmark." Because he has to ask, "How did the flyting work out?"
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-15 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds about right. Claudius returns the smile. "I'm ready to hear -- and see -- them."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-25 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"You were right to start with those," Claudius says. There's a deep unhappiness in Galahad, but it will help to know when Galahad is happy, too. It's something Claudius might notice more, if he and Galahad exchange signs for it, when Galahad is too embarrassed to speak his happiness out loud. But Claudius also enjoys the way this sign feels -- there are also times, he supposes, where he might sign happy to Galahad. Many more than Claudius says, and Claudius considers himself effusive. And it will help to have signs for when Galahad is overwhelmed. It would've helped every time Galahad became too overwhelmed for words, and Claudius asked more and more questions to try and pry some message from him.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-11-26 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius nods with appreciation for the correction -- one benefit from learning face-to-face with someone, rather from observing at a distance, or reading from books. When traveling Europe, Claudius learned many languages by affecting a clumsy ignorance, even when he'd prepared his vocabulary ahead of time. He immersed himself in courts, letting courtiers speak past him, getting a sense for how speech flowed through the room, noting the words of those who held the most sway and charm. He also learned by flirting, of course. Most of his Spanish is flirtation.

But he's always had a mind for languages. Beyond exchanges or excuses, there's a pleasure in learning for a purpose -- to communicate, to connect. Grateful for Magnus's instruction, Claudius flexes his fingers in preparation for the next lesson.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-12 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius looks up from reburying bulbs the squirrels had gotten into, as though they'd sensed he needed another chore to keep his hands occupied. He looks up to see Magnus with a bright smile, giving the small salute of hello before taking off his gloves to make his signs clearer. Too much, he signs, something he learned quickly from Galahad, though he also fits a droll eyeroll in between the sharp framing of his hands. Too much. Overwhelming. But ... He crosses his fingers and holds them out, holding that thought.

It's challenging. The things that are occupying his mind right now outstrip his vocabulary -- not just in signs. He's accepted that, with all the facts in evidence, it's simpler and more straightforward to accept his life was written and predetermined by an English playwright. It changes less than he thought, because he'd worked through so many ad hoc explanations beforehand. A play that revealed his worst sin, as relayed by a ghost, was shattering enough to accept. The realization that events continued to unfold in that play, and foretold a future he hadn't yet lived, was tricky, but Shen Qingqiu had the previous experience to walk him through it. Untangling how, exactly, William Shakespeare was able to capture the of his life already lived and his life to come from hearsay and legends, and how many diverging histories there were, and what that meant for any plan of God's ... that could've been a twenty-four hour mind project1. At the end of the day, he's still quite glad not to be in the play. And if characters escaping a play can ruin it, there's an appeal to plotting to ruin it as much as possible, and thus ruin the jurisfiction agency's day.

Anyway, Magnus knows about the play. He also knows about The Lion King being based on Hamlet, a fact Claudius was able to learn and pass on in the space of a single day. Happy to see you, Claudius decides on, chaining the signs for happy and see and you together. How are you?

1 Thank you to anyone out there who catches that reference.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-12 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ask, and 'tis thine." That feels a little formal, despite the informal register -- he really does hear it, when it's the first thing said out loud. Sitting back on his heels, he asks, "What's the trouble?"
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-12 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius casts a ruefull look on a half-eaten bulb. "I know a few things," he says. "I know tulip bulbs are toxic to humans and cats but squirrels, it seems, can't help nibbling on them for their savor. And," he says more proudly, "I do have the fortune of calling Hanguang-jun a friend." He has to practice saying it the way Magnus does, not in the breathless tones he's heard Wei Wuxian use. Hanguang-jun. Still a little flirty, but in context, he hopes it sounds fond.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-12 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
With the series of realizations he's had to make, Claudius doesn't let the offer slow him. It does raise another concern. "Can the squirrels understand you as well as me?" he asks. "If so, please pass on my apologies to Hubert. I do want to have tulips, but I shouldn't have made ungentlemanly remarks." They were, to be fair, the most delicate yet cutting remarks a man has ever made in the direction of a squirrel. There was a lot about decorum and proportion, which might sting for a young squirrel out on his own.

That said, he smiles. "Hanguang-jun speaks of you the way he speaks of his brightest disciple -- quite impressive, given the shorter span of time we've spent here. I see why. It's already a remarkably thoughtful idea, and here you are, studying and seeking counsel for it." Claudius believes Lan Wangji would be touched, which is the only thing that saves it from being the most overdone flattery and teasing1. "I think we can help each other." He signs sorry instead of saying it, not wanting to get caught up. "That sounded rather scheming and calculating, but it just so happens Lan Wangji has told me about the Cloud Recesses, and the places he would be proudest to show a visitor. He mentioned magnolia, which flowers twice a season, and groves of bamboo. I'm growing gentian flowers for him, but I don't want to present them alone in a seed tray. I'd like to arrange something rather more thoughtful, and also work more on methods to preserve plants throughout the winter. I've books that tell me I should invest in a full spectrum LED lights. Do I look like a man who knows where to find a full spectrum LED light? We should combine our research."

1 It's a bit much, that's all.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-13 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a relief, Claudius thinks. He doesn't have to ask Magnus to apologize to the birds next, for always openly and shamelessly speculating about their personal lives. He likes to imagine he and the birds have built up a rapport at this point, but one can never be sure.

"Fortunately, autumn is the best time of year for collecting most seeds. I couldn't tell you when to find bamboo seeds -- that may be a subject for mutual research," he says, looking forward to the idea, and wanting to assure Magnus all the answers needn't come at once. "Magnolia flowers in spring and late summer, yielding some of the strangest-looking fruits. You won't be able to mistake them the next time you see them. But for a tree, it might be preferable to take a cutting ... I don't know the extent of your ability to, ah, zap plants with summer. But it's preferable to take cuttings in the growing season. Would you be able to make, say, a branch of a tree believe it's summer long enough for me to show you?" If he were in mixed company, he might rein in his excitement to perform untried experiments in plant propagation. But Magnus has listened to Claudius ramble -- or, in his words, infodump -- on all manner of subjects1.

1 Claudius has also infodumped extensively to Galahad about plant science and how cool it is to make plants from other parts of plants and did you know Crowley keeps plants from others climates in a glass house to recreate tropical conditions, which can also be used to extend the growing season -- right, of course you do, you've been there.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-16 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
"Crucial to grafting," Claudius says, with all delight. It's a delight few see unless he's scored some point in a social game he's playing, embarrassed someone or carried off some subtle manipulation. Except, of course, it's about plants. (Plants don't have social lives, except he has read other books that suggest they communicate, and infodumped to Galahad about those, too.) "Grafting takes a cutting from one plant and joins it to another. If one plant has stronger roots, say, then grafting a cutting to it gives the cutting a better chance to survive. We can try that, too. In a way, it's fitting. We've all been grafted a bit here, and Lan Wangji ... he's a traditional man, but I believe he appreciates the benefits of adaptation." But don't get Claudius started on Darwin. That wasn't a purposeful discovery, but it was a fascinating one, and one Claudius spent some time puzzling over, when he was so certain the properties of different species of plants were influenced by celestial bodies, put there by God.

The celestial bodies probably are still relevant. Darwin just hadn't figured that part out.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-18 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
"Cuttings can grow their own roots, if the conditions are right for them. Depending on the plant, it can be long and slow -- it won't receive all the benefits of being grafted to another, established tree. But once the roots come in, it can be planted in soil, and grow into a tree all its own. As for us," he says, eyes bright and smiling, "in many ways, many of us have already gotten stronger. Grafted plants can make use of each other's resistances, bear the stress of changing seasons, become something new. They're a bit unnatural -- some even say sinful. But to a tree that wouldn't flourish otherwise, what's a little sin against nature?" He laughs. "I may be overextending my metaphor. But needless to say: here I've seen many people learn from each other and grow together, in circumstances far from natural."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-18 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Now you must educate me," Claudius says, quite happily. "What is an avocado? I suppose it must be a stone fruit, if it has a pit."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-19 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius fingerspells falafel, f-a-l-a-f-e-l, then smiles with the joy of a connection made. "That's right, you had made the offer to teach why falafel is the finest of foods. You must've been the inspiration for that meal. Ordinarily, I only sit down to eat when there's company and conversation, and there's no custom of that here -- I can go a long while without eating, and Galahad takes exception to it." He says this with fondness for Galahad, and no concern whatsoever for himself. "Once, after gardening together, we went back to the kitchen where I only intended to make instant coffee. When I told him so, he took a plate of falafel from the cold box and said," Claudius fingerspells falafel again, then signs eat. "I did rather enjoy it. And the yogurt sauce -- does that have a name?"
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-20 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be the most spoiled thing a prince could say to someone once homeless, that he lost his interest in meals around the same time he gave up on feasts. When frantic with mania or dulled by depression, or in the even-humored stretches where he hasn't built the habit, the necessity of a food is a distance annoyance at best, nothing to look forward to the way he looks forward to breaking Galahad's fast or approving the results of his baking practice. Talking about the food, however, makes it interesting again, as he considers the question1. "There were herbs. Dill, I think -- the leaves have a distinctive shape -- and mint. And a crisp, green vegetable, with a refreshing sort of flavor."

1 He could stand to have a test taste with friends. No, shots with Crowley don't count.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-24 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius smiles, with sincere surprise to hear some of his own opinions reflected by Magnus. "All the traditions for feasts in Denmark must have roots in the same traditions as Valhalla's. Not, of course, that we still have mythical, self-rejuvenating beasts with multiple flanks ... but everything else sounds the same. We may even share the unfortunate amounts of cultural appropriation, depending on what that term means." It sounds like something Danish feasts would have in spades, at least from Claudius's perspective.
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-27 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
"Ah, I see. At Danish feasts, there tend be a lot of men who've only encountered other cultures through military campaigns, so they see everything in terms of conquest and spoils of war. Anything valuable somehow loses its history, and because some Dane stole it back when we were still pillaging monasteries, Denmark still claims it now. It's as true of traditions as it is of relics." He sighs. "I know it sounds like I'm complaining about the feasts. But really, I'm complaining about my family. It's the company that makes a meal."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2023-12-27 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'd wager most of the traditions around drinking come from Viking feasts. All the pledge drinking -- I think it's the same as heitstrenging, without an animal sacrifice. To be a man of state, you need a second stomach for wine and liquor, because every oath is sworn by draining a flask of Rhenish, with kettle-drums and trumpets to sound out the pledge1. But the queen, my sister-in-law --" Thus far, Claudius has been select in showing the layers of what Queen Gertrude means to him. There was a time, newly arrived, when he'd be reluctant to speak of her as anything but the queen he respected. If he spoke of her as his dear sister, he'd separate it from any feelings of longing, to the point that Laertes was surprised when Claudius spoke of his intention to marry her. If he spoke of the woman he loved, he'd never speak of her by name, except to Lan Wangji. That name was like a precious pearl, a union thrown in a cup to drink to better health, not to be tossed around carelessly. But Gertrude is in a play. And Claudius is sure his hopeless feelings for her are the in the play, too, because his story isn't much without it. "Gertrude had a way of making anyone feel welcome," he says. "That made the company at feasts more varied, the conversation more interesting and convivial, and the whole affair much more communal. At least for me. I used to be far less sociable."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2024-01-01 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
"I understand that feeling, too," Claudius admits with a soft, fond smile. "There are people whose presence reassures simply because of who they are."
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2024-01-05 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"The both of them, yes. I would they could meet." Another admission, but it's very easy to admit things in front of Magnus's easy sympathy. Claudius wishes he could tell Gertrude a story about the beautiful boy he met and fell in love with -- but he can't ever return to his own world. His role in that story that ends in her death. Somehow it's safer to imagine Galahad and Gertrude meeting, unlikely as it is1. "Galahad sets me at ease even when he himself is uneasy. We share something, a kindred feeling, so I could sit quietly with him in a raucous hall and feel reassured by him. When I was younger and clumsier in conversation, Gertrude would share such comfortable silences with me. She's perceptive, insightful, and she has that welcoming way about her. She'd see Galahad's virtues -- which you know are many -- and understand how to speak with him." And speaking with Galahad is a worthwhile, precious gift. Naturally Claudius would want it for someone he loves.

1 This is a shameless use of the dramatic irony lever.
Edited 2024-01-05 16:21 (UTC)
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2024-01-08 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"I really do need to listen to more of your world's music," Claudius muses out loud. "Whenever you quote from a ballad, it's something poignant and relevant1." Waving aside that thought and giving Magnus a smile, he says, "I can show you a few things that need gardening, if you're willing. First, let's go look for a magnolia tree and get that cutting."

1 For example, the poignant, relevant verses of 'No Scrubs.'
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[personal profile] wickedwit 2024-01-14 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Claudius takes that hand with warm gratitude, and once up, will lead them away to the garden's magnolia tree for their first experiments in propagation.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-08 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad is primarily interested in finding Magnus for the sake of finding him, and the note about areas to look is helpful. He has his sketchbook with him and, because it's not Friday, a bottle of Mountain Dew Code Red.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-08 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
He always likes a hello-hug, and since Magnus is asking for it it's not, he decides, wrong of him to accept it. He hugs back, taking a moment to observe all the things Magnus smells of -- clay and fried chickpeas and summer grass.

"Would you like to go outside?" Overformal, but he's not sure how else to ask.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
"What were you reading?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
"Tell me about him?" He has, at this point, figured out that Magnus likes talking about his friends, and he likes listening to Magnus talk.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
He ducks through. He's already glad he asked -- Magnus explaining things is like Percival explaining things, full of chaos and aside jokes, and even when Galahad can barely follow he likes it. His smile is so quick Magnus probably won't get a chance to notice, but it does pass through.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
"The lake," decisively.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad nods. He doesn't actually think he knows how to say anything comforting, so he chooses silence and hopes Magnus will understand it's well-meant. He expects Magnus will keep talking without him saying anything.

It's one of those fall days when the leaves are starting to drop and the air is cool but the sun is still capable of creating heat when there aren't any clouds to block it. The goldenrods and asters along the path are losing their color as their white fluffy seeds supersede the flowers, and there are rustles in the bushes from small birds and mammals. Galahad catches Magnus' sleeve to stop him -- there's a jay in the bush honeysuckle plucking bright red berries and gulping them down like there's a contest to win. It's the single Stellar's Jay, and it's blue-black. It cocks its tail and flies over their heads.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
He only has the Mountain Dew and his sketchbook, and he shakes his head quietly, but it's impossible not to be thinking of Percival and the unicorn, Percival catching the cicada, Percival finding birds' nests and badger dens and making friends with every stray dog in Camelot. Galahad has the foolish light-footed thought that maybe God isn't angry with him after all, if He's let him have another Percival -- maybe it's as Tress said in the very beginning, that His silence is only trust -- but he knows that that can't possibly be true. He's just been fortunate that people here are kind.

"What else does it say?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
He files this away. He's only seen one bird like the jay, so it shouldn't be that hard to remember its likes.

"Can you talk to all birds?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad watches the jay fly back to the bush honeysuckle and grips his sketchbook tighter. He wants to ask Magnus if they can try talking to every bird, and the cervids he's seen glimpses of in the forest, the frogs and snakes down by the lake that always leap or slither away before he even sees them. He wants to know what every animal wants. If Magnus asks, maybe they'll stay long enough to be touched -- or drawn.

He wants Magnus to know he's wonderful. He makes Galahad want to surprise him, the same impulse that made Galahad unafraid of Temeraire when he first met him, because Percival would have loved to meet a dragon. Galahad wants to share something with Magnus that's as wonderful as all the things Magnus has shared with him (his hand shakes on the bottle of Mountain Dew, which is another of those things).

Instead he says nothing.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
As they walk the rest of the way to the lake, he listens -- he is, like Magnus, keeping an eye out for animals. "Disability?" as they reach the shore.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of threads in this he wants to follow, but the most immediate thing is the one that affects Magnus. "What are those?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The texture of his silence shifts and his voice is careful when he asks, "Does it still happen?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad sees no reason not to take Magnus at his word regarding touch -- if Magnus is like Percival in so many other things, then he's probably as likely to be honest. He nods, too, at the idea of Magnus accidentally losing control of his powers when he's overwhelmed, which feels of a kind with Galahad's holy fire, even if he's only been upset enough to use it once.

He processes you're safe a moment later and looks back at Magnus in surprise.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
A quick shake of his head. "What helps?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"Because you know what it is then."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
"I like that too. To know what things are."

In the lake a fish jumps, sending ripples across the water.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
He quickly puts the bottle down and opens his sketchbook. He already knows from experience that the dragonflies rarely stay still long enough for any kind of study, but he still keeps trying, as a number of half-finished drawings will attest.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
He fiercely wants to look, but he keeps his eyes on the dragonfly until it suddenly takes to the air again. Freed, he drops down to the grass beside Magnus, putting yet another unfinished charcoal dragonfly aside so he can look for whatever animal Magnus called.

"Where?" softly.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
A chipmunk isn't a unicorn, but it feels the same right now, the same gift, almost holy. He extends his hand, holding his breath without realizing it.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems fair, honestly. Galahad retrieves his sketchbook, and hopes that Magnus won't mind if they just sit in silence for a while.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
While Magnus is absorbed in working with the plants, Galahad is sketching them. He's good at copying -- when he doesn't have something in front of him, it's almost impossible to conjure it in his imagination, let alone reproduce it on paper, but when he can see the rose mallow pods on their stalks it feels easy to imitate them. Periodically he takes a drink of his Mountain Dew.

Eventually he feels relaxed enough to say, "Shen Qingqiu and I thought we could have a game night. All three of us, I mean."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don't know any." A brief smile at the flower sash. "I never played games, before."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Magnus' enthusiasm makes him smile again, and this time it stays a little longer. "Air hockey?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm only skilled with weapons. Games I don't know. You might best me no matter what."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
He nods. "What else?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-10 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"What else do you like?" he clarifies.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
"You can find out too." He looks pleased.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad smiles back. "Thank you."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
He rolls the edge of the sketchpaper into a tight scroll. "Myrtle."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad unrolls the edge, smoothing it out with his fingers. Magnus listens. Magnus understands him. Magnus will understand this.

Finally, he says, carefully, "I want this. To be painted. But it feels-- it feels like a sin."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
He's quiet again, sorting through thoughts and vocabulary. "Sin is word, deed, and desire in opposition to the eternal will of God," though this sounds more like a recitation than his own original idea. "There is ancestral sin, concupiscence, venial sin, mortal sin, cardinal sin, and sin unto death."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
"Sin may be forgiven. By a priest in confession and by God in the ultimate. Except sin unto death, because that's apostasy."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
He nods. "It should be once a week. I arrived on the feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Christ and it is now the feast of St. Martin of Tours, that is eight weeks. And--" A sigh, in spite of himself. "It doesn't matter. It feels small. To care about venial sins when I've broken my vows."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad takes it immediately -- it does help. "Shen Qingqiu told me to feel beautiful, but vanity is a sin." He's quiet for another moment, before he says, "Everything I want is a sin," softer, shame burning his face. To say it aloud feels both terrible and a relief.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
"Austerity is a virtue," with a gasp of a laugh for a joke there's no reason for Magnus to understand. "I want--" To be loved. To be held. To touch things whenever I want. To be kissed whenever I want. To be painted, to paint, to look at myself in the mirror and not feel shame for looking, to eat until I feel sick, to be unafraid of sensuality, to be loved by God even if I did all those things. "Too much."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"I have more strictures. Because God chose me. It's different for other people."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad nods. "He has been with me since I was a child. This is the first time He's not told me what to do."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's-- hard." With the hand Magnus isn't holding, Galahad rolls up the edge of paper again, making it tight. "I'm used to--" To being told, he thinks. To following directions. To knowing exactly what to do because it's laid out plainly, and even if he can't understand what people expect he at least knows clearly what God does. To taking the knowledge of what he wants and burying it down within himself where it can't hurt anyone he loves, which has always meant only Percival but now is expanding definition at a stomach-turning pace. "Not choosing," he finally settles on.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
An emphatic nod. "It was easier. Now I feel-- there's too much. I get-- caught."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
A fleeting smile. "You're very wise."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad is quiet again, for a very long time. Then: "I need to try wanting things, without-- without being afraid. I should learn how to ask. Everyone else can."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
A considering pause. "What do you want?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-11 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
He feels a pang, both at the emotion in Magnus' words (it's a new feeling for him, but he wants to help, not just to know how to say the right thing but to be able to tangibly help) and at how much they align with the things he wants too, the things he can't say either.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad nods and squeezes his hand. All of those are things he would be afraid to ask too, if he and Claudius were even within the realm where they could be asked.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
He looks startled, and Magnus gets another space of silence before. Then, "They're not the same, but-- I'm afraid of choosing. Sin is just-- everyone is sinful. The world is. But I-- haven't ever taken something for myself. I have now, here, but nothing like this." When he stops and starts, it's not from uncertainty, just from the difficulty of getting the words out. "It would be-- it would be a sin that I want."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
But after a moment's hesitation, he leans back. "More than one thing."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad picks a blade of grass to focus on. "I have always been an-- an object. A weapon for God to use. To feel beautiful, I would have to--" Quiet. "I want to stop being a thing. But then I know God won't take me up again. It will be-- really over."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
"It would be-- there has never been anything else."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
"I would have to decide everything. I would have to find-- a purpose. I-- my reward was to be death, and I would have to live."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
A littler purpose. He thinks about the grain of wheat in his hand at the end of Lan Wangji's meditation lesson. Something small, with possibility in it. If he closes his eyes and sinks down inside himself to the uncut field of wheat, he can imagine that all those stalks are heavy with handfuls of small things that could be something, all those wants and desires he's buried grown up for harvest, all those things he likes -- sketching and baking and arranging flowers, reading frivolous books, learning games and tasting new things -- ready to be turned to sustenance.

He squeezes Magnus' hand again.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
For a while he says nothing else. He's grateful that with Magnus he can be quiet when he needs to be quiet, grateful for the unhurried space Magnus is so good at making. Percival was like that too. They both know when to fill the silence and when to let it gain depth on its own.

Eventually, though, he says, "You said Hearthstone speaks with signs."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
"Will you teach me something?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps not for everyone, but Galahad was a titled lady's son, raised in a convent, and he can read and write in English, French, and Latin. He copies each letter back to Magnus, in the very serious way he has -- they aren't just abstract concepts, they have meaning, and he wants to commit that meaning to heart. After Magnus gives him the alphabet he spells out both their names, half to himself.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Warmth suffuses him. His name has never been his -- it is his father's name, it is a faraway land, it is something he uses because no alternative have ever occurred to him, even knowing he did choose for himself once. But Magnus has made his name into something new, something that hasn't ever belonged to something else.

"What does that mean?" as he copies Magnus' gesture.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
His face is blank, as it often is when he's overwhelmed. He makes the sign again, and his heart cramps the way it does when Claudius calls him beloved.

"Thank you," quietly. "It's good."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad signs it back, once or twice to feel comfortable with it: Friend, friend, friend. It's the best thing he's ever learned. He could embrace Magnus, he could weep, he could try to speak and tell him how glad he is to be his friend. Instead he signs the word; it's so much easier than talking.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
"Thank you," he says again. He always runs cold, as he told Shen Qingqiu, and he's grateful for the warmth, even if he hasn't quite processed that it's Magnus' doing.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-12 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Like this?" holding up his hand. He likes that these signs build on each other, he likes it better than spelling the words out. It reminds him of the Eucharist, the transubstantiation, of how one thing can become another thing in a way that's almost beautiful. Homoousios, consubstantiation, light from light.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad copies this sign too -- the crossed wrists also feel good, but he likes the sign with his fingers better.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
He can gather the significance of the pointing, the I and the you, and it strikes him then that this is a language. When Shen Qingqiu had talked about there being signs and showed him the one for eating, Galahad imagined something like a pidgin, something that would let him communicate in the most rudimentary way -- but this is like the difference between English and French, it's two wholly different systems of speaking, a language where names aren't just a literal string of letters but something imbued with their own meaning. He wants to learn it. He wants to learn all of it.

"Will you teach me more? Are-- are there books to study?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad's expressions tend to go either blank and unreadable or incredibly transparent, and in this case, it's obvious that he's entranced. He watches Magnus' hands instead of his face, and although Magnus is too quick for him to copy along Galahad's hands move along with him, catching the occasional letter or word to echo. "That would be-- that would be good. Thank you."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
One of his word-gathering silences, which by now Magnus must be getting used to, and maybe even recognizes the meaning of. "When someone asks too many questions, it's hard for me to answer," he says at last. "If I could ask for one at a time, or-- ask him to wait. Or say when something is too much."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
"It's all right. I just can't answer." He strokes his right hand over his left. It feels easy, easier than saying the words. He likes the way please feels, the little circles against his chest, soothing (he could teach Claudius that, he thinks, and it would feel good).
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, the wiggling fingers are so good. He loves how tactile the signs are, expressive of their meaning. It's so easy to sign something and then keep signing it, over and over. "How often can we have lessons?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-13 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not, actually -- what Magnus is doing to indicate time is so abstracted from what Galahad would think that he doesn't make the connection at all -- but he gets the gist that Magnus likes this.

"We can talk any time, too. I like talking with you, and I like-- listening to you," he says. He's so at ease. It's so easy to talk to Magnus: his words still get trapped inside him, but less often, and he feels less the dread of needing to make sure everything comes out right, and because he feels that dread less he can say more. He taps his fingers against his wrist. "What does this mean?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad sits up a little straighter, the way he does when he's particularly interested. "The canonical hours on your wrists? Instead of bells?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
"There are seven hours. They're marked with bells. I wake for matins, but not everyone does."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't know what a minute is."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
"It is a way that time passes? Seconds to a minute, and minutes to an hour? So every hour is the same?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
"They're not all the same. Some are longer, and in the summer they're all longer and all shorter in winter, because the day is shorter."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Galahad signs slow down, but he smiles at Magnus too. "They're the hours for prayer. Matins and Lauds are early in the morning, and some people go back to sleep after until Prime, but--" But he needs that time before Prime to convince himself to get out of bed every day. "Prime is the first hour of the day, and it lasts three hours, to Terce. Then Sext at noon, Nones in the afternoon, Vespers at sunset, and Compline before bed."
Edited 2023-11-14 03:25 (UTC)
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
"It's Latin for six," flushing. "The sixth hour." He is very intentionally not thinking about sexual written messages.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
"We use the sun. That's why it's shorter in the winter."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
He nods and hands the sketchbook and pencils over.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"And it's the same all the time? All year?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
He hasn't decided yet whether he likes this better, but the specificity of it is pleasing. "And this," touching Magnus' picture, "is a thing that can be worn."
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Galahad wants a watch. It would make it so much easier to keep the hours -- he's already thinking about how he'd map them onto the twenty-four equal hours, and then he'd know exactly when to pray. It would make it easier to be home (he doesn't realize that he thinks of Claudius' rooms as home, but that's the place he's envisioning) when he wants to be. It would be easier to know when to eat, since his body rarely registers hunger in a clear way. It would be easier to match his understanding to someone else's, especially since Magnus has made the variation acutely clear. He longs for a watch, and compared to some of his other longings this feels safe and uncomplicated.

"Thank you." He means for explaining all this.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Will you show me how to say thank you?"
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also something relieving in the fact that all these nuances can be expressed by gesture, rather than tone: he doesn't need to sound right, because it's included in the sign. He goes through each of the signs one by one, looking to Magnus for confirmation.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-14 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Between Shen Qingqiu and Magnus, he's already figured out that hug means embrace, and he immediately rocks onto his knees and reaches for Magnus, wrapping his arms around him.
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[personal profile] onthewillowsthere 2023-11-15 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
As he holds him, Galahad signs friend against Magnus' back.
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[personal profile] wwx_isdead 2023-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
As soon as he sees the sign, Wei Wuxian is interested in the person behind it as much as the lessons on offer. He sets off in search of this Magnus and when he thinks he has found him says, "Hello! Are you the one who wants to learn to cook?"
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[personal profile] wwx_isdead 2023-11-28 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Magnus. Out loud, the name finally sparks something in Wei Wuxian's mind, making a connection. "Ah, wait, but you must be the young man Hanguang-jun is so fond of! I should have known."
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[personal profile] wwx_isdead 2023-11-28 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yes." There's no time when that won't make Wei Wuxian smile just a little brighter. "I think he's probably the better cook, but I know some tricks he doesn't."
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[personal profile] wwx_isdead 2023-11-29 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
"I am Wei Wuxian." He doesn't flinch when he says it, doesn't worry about this child flinching in turn. He doesn't even flinch at the word dog, which is a much more difficult feat. "Let's see what we can find to make and while we do that, you can tell me what a hot dog is! There aren't dogs involved, are there? I don't like dogs."
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[personal profile] wwx_isdead 2023-11-30 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"Shitty, but also delicious?" Count Wei Wuxian intrigued, honestly. "Maybe we can find some."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-25 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina has seen Magnus's signs around - and she is particularly interested in What It REALLY Feels Like To Die, just from a Corpsewitch perspective, as well as perhaps (Trans)Gender Identity and Fluidity, which sounds interesting, but mostly she promised Magnus that she would swing by at some point.

"Hi Magnus," she says with a little wave, "what's up?1"

1Something Nina didn't previously say, but she picks up on languages and lingo very quickly.

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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Nina's been in a pretty good mood lately, after letting things lie with The Darkling-- or should she call him Aleksander? --and seeing him help against the undead in the uprising also cemented that it was the correct decision.

"Honestly, really great," she says, slightly surprised by herself. "How about you?"
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-26 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina nods, sympathetic. "I don't really miss fighting, but Grisha have to use their abilities, otherwise our abilities weaken. I haven't really used mine since I've come here so now I feel amazing - but I hope that was the only time you'll have to fight-- oh, before I forget why I came here, I think I owe you a lesson in flirting! Or... it could be something else."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-26 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina heads toward it, tilting her face up towards the sky as she does, soaking in the sun; she’s not much of a ‘do something outdoors’ person but definitely a ‘do very little outdoors’ sort.

“Start with the basics?” She asks, suddenly a little nervous. Flirting isn’t exactly something that’s tangible, but she’ll try her best.
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-26 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"Right," Nina says, thinking very seriously about where to start, since this is very serious business. "I think the first step is to be able to read someone at a glance. What do they like? What's their personality like? If they're shy and you're too loud, it won't end well at all. It's not... changing your personality to flirt with them, it's knowing how to make the most flattering approach."

She suddenly turns slightly mischievous. "You should pick someone that we both know here. I'll tell you how I would flirt with them."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-26 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina laughs a little, delighted by Magnus's choice. "One of my favorite people here," she says. "Janet is tough and prickly but I think she very secretly has a soft heart... You have to go bold with her. I think she really likes being complimented on both how she looks and what she's able to do, especially her magic. Compliments are usually the way to go."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-27 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Nina tilts her head. "Honestly, it is pretty similar. I was undercover before I came here and... it's all about learning how to talk to people. Convince them and charm them."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-27 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
“That’s Zoya as well. She’s my commander. She’s not much for true diplomacy and would probably rather face down an entire Fjerdan army herself than flirt with someone,” Nina smiles, then refocuses herself. “Right. Flirting. Where were we?”
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-27 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"Boldly complimenting Janet," Nina repeats to herself, then she laughs a little. "This wasn't the best idea. It's tougher than I thought to teach someone how to flirt. Eye contact is important. Touch, if they're open to that - just touching their arm or their shoulder meaningfully. Sometimes I give them a sly little glance as well. Other than that... it's all about reading people and connecting with them." The wheels are turning in her head a little. "How about this... if you ever want to flirt with anyone here - or if Alex shows up and you want to do something special - I can help coach you through it. It's better if I know the target."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-28 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
She laughs a little, then gives him a fake imperious look. "Next victim, please."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-28 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
"Be Luo Binghe," Nina says, as solemnly as she can manage, though she's actually trying very hard to not laugh. "You know I have many wives, Shen Yuan," she says, in what's actually quite a good impression of Luo Binghe, "but the only wife I want is you. May I please make you some delectable dinner and charm you?" She tosses her hair a little. It would, perhaps, seem rude from any other source but Nina is irrevocably, absolutely fond of her good friend and that shines through her impression.
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-28 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Nina ducks her head for just a split second, pleased. "It helps that I know him pretty well. That was more an impression than assessing how to flirt with someone, though... anyone else?"
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-28 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
"That sounds like fun," Nina says and now she's deep in thought for a moment. "For this person, I don't think I would ever actually do it - but if I did, it would have to be a very gentle flirtation. A lot of compliments, a lot of questions and interest in what they're doing and thinking, a lot of thoughtful gifts. I wouldn't jump right in. Slow, careful steps."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-28 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina laughs, pleased. "Correct! I don't think I'm her type, though."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-29 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
"Sure," Nina says, easily, looking up at the sky as she thinks of someone else. "This person... is one of those people that reflects back what you give to them. If you're flirtatious, they're flirtatious. If you're not, they're not. If I wanted to flirt with them, I'd just compliment them. Make them laugh. I'd tell them that they're a kind, wonderful human being - and I'd be frank with them." She smiles, clearly fond.
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-29 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
“Good morning,” she says, with an easy lilt to it and a softer, more casual slope to her shoulders. “I thank thee for the coffee - but more for thy companionship.”
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-29 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
"I am, after all, a trained actress," she says, dropping into a small curtsy. "Not professionally trained -- but I had to be in order to survive the streets of Ketterdam. If you give people the you that they want, they bother you a lot less."

Pretending to be a ditzy tourist in order to avoid other gangs that might want to bother her for her involvement with the Dregs, demurely walking past creepy older men so they left her alone when all she wanted was to glare at them, her holy and solemn persona in the House of the White Rose where men came to see Nina the Ravkan Grisha; all of that was her training.
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-30 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina nods, all too aware of the scramble and desperation involved in fending for yourself. "I think it's what I might do for the talent-- oh, did you know that Nightingale and I are hosting a talent show?"
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-30 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"It was, surprisingly, Nightingale's idea but now it's taken on a life of its own. I think it'll be nice. Something silly and fun to do."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-11-30 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's going to take place next week in the new cafe that Enjolras is planning... I think a couple of people have signed up already. Do you have any talents you'd want to share?"
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-01 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
“So far there’s some music, dancing, poetry… stage magic. I also talked Tress into doing a spores demonstration. You can obviously just attend and watch if you want - that’s what Galahad is doing - but the sign-up sheet is open for a few more days.”
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-01 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Great! It'll be great to have you there."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-01 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina furrows her brows slightly, confused. "Hanguang-jun? Is he here? I thought he was one of Shen Yuan's fictional heroes."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-01 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh, that's good to know," she says. Unfortunately, thinking about how she would flirt with Lan Wangji causes her mind to jump straight to his words during the truth spell, where he told her I am cruel only to my husband and he likes it and she flushes just the slightest bit pink. "I also don't think I'd have a chance with him unless I was his husband," she says hurriedly. "If I attempted it, I'd be shamed straight into the ground and he'd give me the most devastating of looks without even trying."

Nina stands ramrod straight and towering, which is fairly easy given her height, giving Magnus her best expressionless yet also somehow simultaneously stern Lan Wangji look. She shakes her head no very subtly.

"I think it's your turn now," she says, with a laugh, breaking her act. "You should tell me how you would flirt with... ...Laertes."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-02 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
"That's great!" Nina's trying her best to be encouraging. "Dost thou think I can be swayed by compliments?" She gives Magnus her best Laertes impression, a look that says Do Not Test Me... that quickly melts into the most open of smiles. "You would be correct."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-02 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
“Probably the same way,” she muses. “I think he responds well to compliments.”
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-02 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
“Who’s next?” Nina asks, thrilled by this slightly silly game (made sillier by the fact that she hasn’t had a single flirtation since she arrived).
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-03 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina tilts her head, thinking for a moment. "I don't think I've met them. I took a short break from ...everything for a week or two."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-04 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
"I'll have to try and find her to introduce myself!" She thinks through the rest of the mansion residents in her mind. "I'm not sure if there's anyone else here I would even think about flirting with." There are a couple of people she views more as mentors than anything else, a few individuals she's only met once, and that weird demon that sometimes lurks around...
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-04 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a brief pause while Nina has an internal debate over whether or not she wants to continue keeping the mood light or tell Magnus the truth. She eventually settles for both. "Well, there's the dragon, of course," she says, with a cheeky grin before she grows more serious. "There's also a man here from ...I guess from my past. Mostly my country's past. It's a very complicated situation. He hasn't done anything wrong here but I'm definitely trying to avoid him."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-05 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
He did many wrong things. He started a civil war. He tore a nation apart. He killed many people. All of those thoughts tumble through Nina's mind but she tries to separate them finer than when she had originally told a select few about The Darkling, when it was mostly based on emotion and anger.

"I think I understand his intentions," Nina says, carefully. "We're alike in many ways... I think I mentioned that where I come from, people treat people like us - Grisha - extremely cruelly. In the Wandering Isle, they sometimes kill us and drain our blood for healing abilities. That healing ability... it isn't even true. It's an old wives tale. I can understand where his anger stems from. But... it's caused him to do some things that some consider unforgivable."

She's clearly being very cautious about what she's saying. "But I think he arrived before a crucial moment that really caused the switch to flip. I don't think he's done anything here. He fought the undead with us. He's made... friends. Do I really have a right to judge him on the things I heard that he did?" She's being logical -- and yet her thoughts flash to sweet, kind Genya Safin who served The Darkling loyally and now had a missing eye and a scarred face to show for it. What would she think of Nina now?
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-05 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
"So.. prophecies," Nina says, thoughtful. "Kind of? I don't think there's any sort of prediction about him that I know of. He's not a... a god. He's not a Saint. He's just a man with a lot of power and it's the future for him but the present for me -- though maybe that's a prophecy in its own way. You are right about change, though... Things are changing all the time. Especially here. It's changed me a lot. I just don't know how much it's changed him."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-05 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina makes a face and for a second she seems much younger, as if this was all some school drama. "I'm wary... but it's also weird. To hear friends and people I know say nice things about him."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Exactly," Nina says, because that's exactly it. She huffs out a small sigh. "I'm glad you understand. I'm just doing my best to stay out of his way."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-06 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
"Well, let's put it this way... I told you about Matthias. Briefly. I didn't think he could find a different path. I hated him. He was stubborn and ignorant!" She smiles, fond and sad. "We were sworn enemies but we both found a different path. I'm not going to fall in love with this individual I'm talking about... but I'd be awfully hypocritical if I couldn't try and think the best of him."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-06 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
She nods. "Basically. I think... the only thing I can do is wait and see."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-06 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Nina nods, feeling more grateful for this than she thought she would be. "That would be really appreciated. Thanks, Magnus."
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-07 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
"Of course I would love to hug," she says, with a grin. Tall and full-figured, Nina is perfectly built for hugging -- though regrettably, it wasn't something she did enough with her friends. Being in constant peril with the occasional traumatic situation didn't usually lend itself to the cozier parts of friendship. She wraps Magnus into a warm hug.
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[personal profile] ravkanwitch 2023-12-08 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"You're easy to trust," she says, with a fond smile.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-28 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes finds Magnus in his mossy clearing. Here, it feels as though summer lingers on amidst the golden leaves of autumn; Laertes sheds his sweater as he steps out from beneath the trees. "Hallo," he calls. "Art thou still trading lesson for lesson?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-28 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"Galahad saith thou canst speak with thy hands," he says, and signs Galahad, friend. "There's nothing I like better than learning a new language. I'll happily teach thee to cook, an thou wouldst teach me."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-28 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes signs Cut apples; he signs butter, sugar, flour, and Yes, and I'm sorry. "Little more than that, I fear. But I've been diligent in my practice of them."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-29 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
"Ay, I had a hand in it, but so did Galahad. I'm glad it was pleasing to thy taste." Laertes sits, cross-legged, sweater draped over his lap.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-29 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"Only my name." Laertes fingers-spells it quickly enough. "He taught me that names need not be spelled, though, and showed me his."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-29 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ay, Denmark also uses the Latin alphabet; I'll follow." Laertes is already thinking of how he might name himself--whether he would define himself as a brother, or as a student, or a fencer. His hands hover over his lap, eager to begin.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
"I'm sure he will," says Laertes; he thinks privately that Claudius would like little better than to select a name for him, as though it were a doublet or a hat. He practices the letters to himself, spelling the names of everyone he knows: Tress and Sagramore, Lancelot and Ophelia. "What words hast thou found most useful to know?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
"I have never in my life needed to say that, which makes me gladder of my life than I can say," Laertes laughs.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes immediately recognizes it, that flourishing swish (like a foil, he thinks, a light and whippy blade), and grins. "Couldst show me the sheath of it again? I missed that part."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Like saying only 'didst' instead of 'thou didst'--the conjugation implies the subject, as the act of unsheathing implies the sheath," says Laertes musingly. He copies the motion, but makes an L for the sheath. "This might make a fine name. It's pleasing to my hands."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes copies the gesture--he mirrors, at first, left hand doing what Magnus's right hand does, then corrects himself. "What does it mean?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh--make." For a long moment, Laertes just sits there, practicing the sign, first with and then without the L.

It's overwhelming to him, that the first thing people think about when they think of him is no longer the sword. It's no longer his gentlemanly graces, his polite manners. The first things that Magnus thinks of are the things he shapes with care and straining hope, like the boat or the tarte tatin.

Magnus threw off the sign of the crown and embraced the sunlight, and it shines in him. He is more than his father's summer; he is a light all his own, and he illuminates everyone he touches so that they might better see themselves.

"Yes," says Laertes quietly. "Yes, that is a fine name."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"I love it," says Laertes. His voice is a little thick; he clears his throat and continues, "And I like Sagramore's, too, although I'll happily call him by any name he chooses." He signs S-coffee idly, making sure to mirror rather than reverse Magnus's signs.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-11-30 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ay, Galahad showed me that one--I think I'll use it often." And he signs Magnus, friend, easily and fluently, as though it is the most natural thing in the world to say.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh?" Figured it out is a fun one to copy, both hands making vees.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
"How old art thou?" Laertes asks, leaning forward a little.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes copies that sign, too, committing it to memory. "What hast thou chosen--hast thou chosen?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes considers the question, sitting back with his hands sinking into the mossy ground. "When I was sixteen," he says slowly, "I held myself apart from boys of mine own age. In part because I was awakening to new desire, which I was at great pains to conceal--but in greater part because I had been trained since mine earliest youth to do nothing foolish or immoderate that might stain my father's reputation. And so I fear I missed much of what other boys learned, in each other's company. Now, although I've passed thirty years, a part of me that was held frozen at sixteen is beginning to quicken and thaw ... and I think it may be the same for thee, as well. Twenty-four thou mayest be, but that part of thee that was sixteen still craves fulfillment."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
"Ay, and women, too--but that much, I might have shared with them, if I dared." He shrugs a little. "For all that, I led an easy life. I never wanted for food or shelter. My father yet lives, and loves me, and would do all in his power to see me untouched by suffering or scandal. I don't mean to set myself within thy sphere. Only ... only, I suppose, to say that thou art not alone."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes privately notes that the sign for dad looks almost identical to the sign for Hanguang-jun, but it's only a passing thought. "Ay," he says, remembering all he'd said under the influence of the truth spell. "When I was traveling abroad, he set spies on me, and hired my friends to inform on all my doings--and only then did I realize that he must have done the same in Denmark. His way of loving was to exert control in all things, and even mine own mind became an instrument to that purpose. I knew no greater virtue than discipline, unless it was moderation. And still there was no thing I could be that would please him. He ... he loves me, but I doubt he likes me. And he would like me less, to know all that I've done here. He would see my happiness as a problem to be managed, and manage it he would."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes blinks. "An thou art offering to turn my father into a dragon, please stay thy hand."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes signs dragon, ring, mimicking to help fix the signs in his mind. "In any case--whatever age thou feel'st thyself to be, that age thou art."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
"Only--I've started to make friends," he says, with a kind of trembling gladness. "True friends, not people who wanted my father's ear. I've fallen in love, and may yet fall in love again. I've done foolish things for the joy of foolery, and made mistakes that harrowed me to my heart. All those things that I felt I couldn't do, when I was sixteen, I've begun to do in earnest."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
"Yes," says Laertes, smiling in answer. "That's just what I'm doing."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
"Say on," says Laertes, shifting his posture to one of attention--leaning forward a little, hands neutral at his sides, careful not to sign or fidget in a way that might distract.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
"What pulls at thee? What catches thy heart and makes thee glad?" Laertes signs make, make, make.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
"Then be with them--those that are here with thee. Give them joy and comfort. That's a path, and in my eyes, a noble one."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"The prince of Denmark was at university when I was drawn here, and he has thirty years," Laertes says, grinning. "Thou shouldst speak to Nina--we have a sort of club for learning new things together. I think she'd welcome thee."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"I've been working with it, ay," says Laertes. "Tress tells me that she collected cups, in her world, and so I've determined to make some for her. If nothing else, my mistakes might make her laugh. The clay I've gathered has been cleaned of impurities, and sand added in proper measure, and I've been planning a kiln to fire it in. Thou mayest use all of it--I had no wish to rob thee of it."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes sprawls back on his hands, laughing. "There are plans to build a kiln, ay. The kiln itself exists only in my imaginings."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'd be glad of it," says Laertes. "Sagramore's asked to help, too; with three of us, it will be light work."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-01 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"What words ought I to know? Was this 'kiln'?" He copies the sign that Magnus had used--an opening framed with one hand, palm-down, and a forceful palm-up shove into the space beneath that frame; a tickling flutter of fingers to represent flame.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Laertes copies Alex, because he's fairly sure that's a sign he's going to be seeing a lot. "What of 'clay,' or 'cup,' or 'fire'?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
"The shapes flow well together," says Laertes. He especially likes how the A transitions into the Y. "In Danish, it's--" and he signs L, E, R. "Close to mine own name."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
"Yes," says Laertes with delight. "I feared that to speak it would make the word impossible to hear, but thou hast heard it and spoken it aright. The vowel is--" and he presses in on his throat "--more choked; it hath not its origins in Latin. In Norway and Sweden, though we share many words in common, they think my language unmusical. Ler," he says, emphasizing that strangled E. "In Norwegian, it means 'laughing.' I think in Swedish it means both?1"

1 Laertes is close--in Swedish, it's pronounced with yet another vowel sound, and is part of words related to smiling and earthenware.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"Good!" Laertes sits forward with a grin. "That word, I don't know, although this place lays an unbeautiful gloss upon it."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes can't help cracking up at that, clutching his stomach. "It is not--" he gasps "--not the first word of Old Norse I expected to learn."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"How old does he feel, to thee?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"I should like so much to meet him." Laertes smiles a little. "I had few men I could look up to, in Denmark--but in France I met a Norman named Lamond. He was a towering champion on the field of combat, an unmatched fencer and a gentleman of most perfect graces and manners. I was faint to catch his eye, but I couldn't bring myself to speak a word to him. I feared too much that he would see the green, untried boy of me, and find me wanting. Now ... now I wonder if we might have been friends, or better than friends, if I'd been braver."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"Thine Alex," teases Laertes. "I think she would have had to kiss me, too, or I would have languished for an eternal life in dread of asking wrongly. Had Sagramore not made tenders of affection to me first, I would never have dared to try his willingness. And had it not been for his encouragement, I would never have been brave enough to kiss anyone else."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes tilts his head. "Ay, in all things I aim to be honest with him."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes frowns for a moment, but then he works out the connection between Magnus's phrase and the previous thread of conversation. "Oh, yes, that's so, if I take thy meaning aright."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"It must have been agony," laughs Laertes. "Didst thou retreat, and force him to score the second touch? Or didst thou rally?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"Something like pride, and exultation?" Laertes guesses.
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
"If my lover said that my kiss was the best thing that ever happened to him, I would feel greater triumph than has ever been known on the battlefield."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ah." A self-conscious laugh. "Mayhap that's a more likely reaction."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Thy time sounds ... kinder about such things than mine," says Laertes, a little more softly. "I'm glad for it. I've heard such loves as ours called the vice of the Greeks--and it heartens me to know that the arc of history has bent back again, and the strictures of my era have gentled."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's hard," says Laertes, thinking of how his father would answer it if he returned home with Sagramore on his arm and insisted that they were married. He's old enough now that he could go wherever he likes and make another life; the children Magnus helps, though, still require and deserve care, and it aches to hear that they would be cast out for their sins. (It feels like it's been a long time since he thought of what he does with Sagramore as sin, and he finds that thought hateful to bear.) "I want to understand--those words, what do they mean? Gay is the kind of marriage I have, is it not?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-02 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a lot to absorb all at once, but Laertes follows as well as he can, creating the schema in his mind and mentally pinning each term to a person so that he has a mnemonic. (He doesn't think he knows any lesbians; even Sappho famously had both male and female lovers.) "A part of me had thought that all people must be bi, or there could be no sin in loving one's own sex," he admits. "Just as all of us may covet, or steal, or kill--that which is forbidden is that which any might do. I do not say it is a sin," he hastens to add. "Only that it seems strange to forbid a temptation to which some cannot be subject. But thou sayest some love only one sex?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
"As thou rightly shouldst. She's lucky to have thee. Even if thou wert 'a lot.'"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
"Thou art a fine young man," says Laertes warmly. "Open with thy heart, generous to thy friends. Honest, and earnest, and kind. I admire thee very much."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"For all thy generosity, though, I remember what I owe. When thou art ready to learn to cook, come find me, and we'll learn together."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Laertes frowns. He doesn't much like the thought of Magnus being too anxious to come inside for hot meals. "Wouldst like me to bring thee food? It would be easy enough to add one more portion."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then dinner will be mine office, until thou art ready to join me in the kitchen," says Laertes. "Hast thou any favorite meals?"
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think some of those are in my Turkish cookbook," says Laertes, pleased at the spark of recognition. "I'll look for the rest."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"It does help; my thanks," says Laertes. "Thou wilt have to test each dish for me, to be sure that I've made it aright."
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[personal profile] timebethine 2023-12-03 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, friend, Laertes signs in answer.